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On the first half, artist and author Rob Shetterly talks about what went into his portrait of truth-teller Edward Snowden, and what his book "Americans Who Tell The Truth" is all about.  On part two, it's a discussion with Bill Kauffman, the screenwriter of the new movie Copperhead. He talks about how it is unlike any other civil war movie to date. Did you even know there were Americans in the north who opposed Lincoln's war? It's an important story with great relevance for America today.

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