While some argue Christmas is really a religious Christian holiday, that's just not the case. On this show, Burt's guest is the Reverend Selena Fox, a Wiccan priestess, interfaith minister, environmentalist, Pagan elder, author, and lecturer in the fields of Pagan studies, Ecopsychology, and comparative religion. Rev. Fox is a trained counselor and psychotherapist, and began leading public Pagan rituals in 1971 and has done public education about Paganism since 1973.What has come to be known as Christmas really is a holiday for everyone to enjoy and celebrate! Listen in to this fun show.